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15/04/24

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Originally posted by wotsup ↑

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You already have wotsup, have you got any idea on the different take people put on 17:3, you're just another one, digging in does not make you right

As Jesus never ever speaks independently outside Himself, the Father and the Holy Spirit"

I could not give a hoot as to other peoples creations, I'm only interested in Jesus's very clear and precise language and that IS, he unquestionably, independently of himself, defines the Father as the only true God = a one and ONLY possible take.

You simply cannot refute this clear and obvious and maintain Jesus's truth.

So come on then, in Jesus's words in 17:3, who exactly is he saying is the only true God????????????
Tip, Jesus quotes the OT -> Hear, Israel: Yehowah our God is ONE Yehowah.

The Son was doing the Father's will, so he clearly has a will of his own, should he have chosen to act upon it.
But his words in 17:3, his truth has zero to do with that.

You were NEVER able to provide a verse showing that you had to know your created holy spirit person, for eternal life, that is because there is not such thing, as the Holy Spirit is the God and Father that Jesus defines in 17:3.
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A 2nd Adam is exactly that, he was simply made by the word and power of Yehowah and not made of dust, making him heavenly.

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The comparison between Jesus and Adam as the "second Adam" underscores the idea of Jesus
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It does nothing of a sort, that is no more than your imaginations running wild.
You are grossly down playing what Yehowah can do through a man, should he chose to.
Not to mention, Grossly down playing what the Man Jesus achieved.
You come up with this false notion, that a man, 2nd Adam could not atone for sins, with ZERO Bible backing to fit this wild creation of yours.
Not to mention, what he did or didn't do to achieve this, your are ignoring.

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You have nothing wotsup, and you can harp on all you want as John 17:3 states, "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." In this verse, Jesus is acknowledging the Father as the only true God, but he also includes himself as the one sent by the Father. Jesus affirming his role as the Son of God and as the one who has been sent to reveal the Father to humanity and to save us, giving us eternal life by faith in him.
Jesus is not excluding himself from the identity of God, but rather emphasizing the unique relationship he has with the Father.
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