"the state sponsored pension at 65 came in ????1850 via Bismarck...

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    "the state sponsored pension at 65 came in ????

    1850 via Bismarck in Germany ... when life expectancy was 45

    1909 Oz when life expectancy was 50

    so something hasn't kept up with the times"

    Yes JW the lesson is welfare is out of date 19th and 20th century communism and it's to we abolished it and let individuals take personal responsibility for paying for their material desires.
 
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