farmboy - yes, quite a mess whether he wins or not
politics in this country is littered with this sort of stuff, but maybe not to this extent
if he doesn't get up, but has say a 3rd of the numbers, he will back bench it and let it fester
it's a no win for labor regardless of the outcome
would be bizarre if labor were able to steady the ship and somehow win the next election, imagine how insignificant abbott would look
