rudd wants to lift legal drinking age, page-26

Well both would be wonderful, and i can see your point Vayama,but men aren't in the relationship for nothing,and i'm not talking "biffo" stuff with their sons,i mean just giving them quality time, and teaching them that their here on earth for a reason, and part of that reason is not to destroy it.......

I'm not taking anything away from women in what i'm saying
here, but men have their place,and maybe most are still wondering where it is.....

Good on you Westsurf too,am sure it'll all work out for you