Liberals are now suffering the same fate labor did in the first half of the Howard governments time in office
That is being up against a government in office that is performing reasonably well and being an opposition that is wondering around lost and is not even close to be a viable alternative government.
the positives I thought would come out of the Liberals losing the last election would be that
Howard and the other has beens would retire
Some of the arrogance would be knocked out of the liberals
and someone like Turnbull would shine
unfortunately they are stil as arrogant as ever and Turnbull is turning out to be very disappointing.