This thread is 6 months old and over 300 pages ... there is nothing new being presented, nor now being discussed appropriately.
To quote me when I closed another thread last night ... “Infantile squabbles ... dibber dobber TOUs ... egos bigger than Ben Hur ... an endless stream of low content, off topic sniping posts”.
I might add, the largely frivolous TOUs continue.
I also posted last night ... “If you don’t have new material and can’t follow HotCoppers posting guidelines DONT POST”.
If there are to be any new thread starts on AVZ it has to be new material and all posts have to meet posting behaviour within HotCopper Posting Guidelines.