Russia Ukraine war, page-126225

good post
BJ and szaba have made qualitative arguments only ....the detail doesn't suit them

I will be happy to recognise whatever situation arises but am amazed that so many posters here are so willing to "pretend" what they wish to believe

and all this US hating .... the truth is the US are no saints , but they aren't devils either ....or perhaps better to say smetimes they ARE saints and sometimes devils - things are much more complicated than the likes of trickie and street pro are willing to ever concede who treat this more like barracking for some footy side
what IS plain to me is Ukraine have done nothing to deserve this and so many posters here only ever consider this war in the context of US- Russia competition rather than for what it is - an unjustified invasion for conquest

had expected a greater degree of maturity here than what I see from so many obviously ignorant and hopelessly biased posters