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Originally posted by Cosmoterios: ↑

you are fixated on the US narrative, and not looking at the Real picture.

Putin principally demanded "security" guarantees of Russia's borders and also demand NATO (a military alliance) never allow Ukraine to join.
Those were his primary demands.

And he offered in return "security" guarantees to Eastern European countries.
If you didn't understand the cause of this dispute, here is the short version: Ukraine wanted to join NATO, and by being a NATO member, Ukraine can seek help under Article 5, to reclaim the Crimea and breakaway territories back. That was Zelenskyy's strategy. But this would have meant a war between NATO and Russia.

Putin wanted to pre-empt that move.

He first tried to approach NATO and US to negotiate, but they blew him off, daring him to invade (refer to the propaganda of the last 2 months).

And when he built enough forces to threaten Ukraine, they (US and NATO) freaked out.

NATO and the US then changed tactics, threatening to ruin Russia's economy through sanctions.

And that is how we got to, where we are today.

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Good summary.
You could also add Minsk 2 Agreement proposed by France & Germany
and agreed to by Russia & the Ukraine in 2015.

If we support the Ukraine's right to silo Nato missiles & weapons of war
directed at Russia, then this would weaken our right to object to
Chinese missiles or weapons of war directed at Aus in PNG or Indonesia in say a few years time.

As the saying goes:
"Be careful what you wish for"

All IMO only.
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