Russia Ukraine war, page-162

Doesn't anybody see parallels between Taiwan and Ukraine? In both cases the outsider is US and it is just playing in the use of proxies, Western Europe through NATO which it has membership and QUAD, a looser and much smaller less United alliance. In both cases these proxies have an intimate economic relationship with their so called enemy and the 2 countries in question are outside of the proxies realm. One is trying to gain EU and NATO membership and thus protection while the other is trying to gain a sovereign state independent existence.

Here we are with some folks egging a nuclear war. When push comes to shove, the rewards are just too skinny for the risks. Forget those warm fuzzy human rights, democracy and freedom that they bang on. It's business as usual and hasn't US learn to never over invest in $ with so little reward wrt Afghanistan and a lesser extent Iraq? How about their investments in Vietnam and Korean wars?