Russia Ukraine war, page-166576

"Oh, I thought you were talking about the wests desire to use Zelenskyy to destabilise Putin, "

....if that WERE actually the case - why would putin place himself in that position by starting the war - what you people can never get round is that putin initiated this thing

shall we both ber brutally honest ??
putin did it because he thought he COULD ....but he couldn't ,russia weren't good enough and Ukraine held them up long enough for the west (not just US ) to supply arms gradually

Now US / Europe aren't unhappy at all I'm sure to see putin weakened ....but the primary aim is not just to stop russia from taking Ukraine , but to stop russian expansion in Europe permanently .
Whether or not that involves regime change in russia or russian economic collapse isn't the most important thing ..... just that a precedent is set that this russian empire building is topped and russia restricted to within it's own borders .
this after all was the whole purpose of NATO all along !

This is why European support is so strong and united .