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Originally posted by AndyL2880: ↑

You provided one link to one CNN interview.

This “fact” of yours was an out of context quote made a year after the events in question that only referred to an agreement made by the president who abandoned his presidency yet who’s agreement he made before he fled was still honoured.

One out of context quote is quite a lightweight effort as you’re yet to provide any concrete actions the US had taken.

The US didn’t reneg the EU agreement
The US didn’t murder and abuse protestors
The US didn’t abandon the Ukrainian presidency and help Yanukovych flee Ukraine (Putin helped Yanukovych do that)
The US didn’t hold 2 separate free and fair elections in Ukraine after the sitting president abandoned his position to “handpick” any government

I’ve asked several times what the US did and all I get is junk deflection and delusions.

A dose of reality, facts and truths:
The broken EU agreement promise by Yanukovych was not orchestrated by the US, this was a decision steeped in typical Putin corruption to buy out Yanukovych to be even more of a Putin puppet than he already was.
The unparalleled violence meted out to protestors by Yanukovych, causing even greater anti Yanukovych protests, was not orchestrated by the US, this was simply Yanukovych dismal handling of protests against his broken EU promise
The Titushky thugs used by Yanukovych against Maidan protesters, hardening anti Yanukovych sentiment even further, were not orchestrated by the US, this was Yanukovych’s own idea
The ridiculous anti protest laws introduced by Yanukovych, derailing his legitimacy further, were not orchestrated by the US, this was simply further poor handling of protests by Yanukovych
Yanukovych aligned forces shooting dozens of protestors, decimating any legitimacy he had remaining, was not orchestrated by the US, this was further abysmal handling of the protests by Yanukovych
Yanukovych abandoning his presidency and fleeing to Russia, with Putin’s help, was not orchestrated by the US, this was a deal arranged between two corrupt people namely Yanukovych and Putin
“Armed groups” did not overtake Kyiv causing Yanukovych to flee, Yanukovych and his allies had already fled, this abandoning by the president caused security services to disappear/withdraw which then allowed protestors to occupy government buildings
Ukraine’s vote to remove a vacant presidency was Ukraine’s parliament voting, this vote was not orchestrated by the US, the US took no part in this vote to remove a president who had abandoned his position and the US did not force 36 members from Yanukovych’s own party to vote in favour of his removal either.
The constitutionality of the removal vote is mute as Yanukovych had already abandoned his position the day prior to the vote and there is no constitutional clause stating how to deal with a sitting president who has abandoned their presidency and fled the country, this vote was not orchestrated nor participated in by the US, this was wholly an internal Ukrainian matter
Elections held a few short months after Yanukovych abandonded his presidency, as was agreed by Yanukovych in a deal with opposition parties the day before he fled, were free and fair, these elections were not orchestrated or influenced in any way by the US

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Yep.

In his interview to CNN broadcast on February 1, Obama said he thinks Russia has been interfering in Ukraine partly because President Vladimir Putin was "caught off balance" by embattled Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych "fleeing afterwe had brokered a deal to transition power in Ukraine."

Direct evidence for US's involvement in regime change in Ukraine. If that's not evidence of US meddling in Ukrainian internal affairs, I don't know what is.
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