well ...some truth in that
pro Ukrainians will say it ends when :
1. russia are defeated militarily
2.putin loses power and russia cuts their losses
or
3. the russian economy collapses
the pro russ will say when
1. negotiations happen
or 2. when Ukraine run out of troops
3. some say when russia uses nukes
well ...some truth in thatpro Ukrainians will say it ends when...
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