Russia Ukraine war, page-181439

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    Great powers attack lesser powers for what is to them 'very good reasons:"

    Eg:
    -US attacked Vietnam
    -US attacked Iraq
    -US attacked Afghanistan
    -US/Nato attacked Libya
    -US attacked Syria
    etc etc.

    Were all those attacked justified?
    From a moral point of view, perhaps not
    From a Great powers' point of view.....perhaps....simply because they could...
    and they did not have to justify to others.

    And so it is with Russia.
    Russia maintains that Georgia & the Ukraine joining NATO threatens Russia's National Security.

    Do we accept that?

    Probably not, but like the US invading Iraq on a false premise,
    once it happens, war has its own dynamic and propaganda.

    So, IMO, to argue the rightness or the wrongness of war further
    justifies war and its implicit atrocities/war crimes and to argue otherwise
    is to say that the proposed end justifies the means which even from
    a moral point of view is indefensible.

    We live under a rule of law which is thrown out the window in wartime
    which says we have still a long way to go until we can truely say
    that we are civilised.

    IMO the best strategy to stop this war is:
    (a) ceasefire
    (b) agree on an indépendant umpire
    (c) all sides to put all their cards on the table
    (d) negotiate a settlement based on compromises
    (e) agree on an enforceable agency

    Otherwise its more of the same and if that's your position, then why crib about
    about who is doing wrong or who is doing right......its war stupid!


    Last edited by moorookamick: 07/10/23
 
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