many many very silly points you've made : 1. I wasn'yt wrong before ....you were , have been about many things so your "again" is innacurate and there for effect I can quote mistakes you've made - show me one I have ....you can't !
2. you have not demostrated anything I said in that post was in any way incorrect !
3. Don't conflate the situation NOW wrt to NATO membership with the situaton PRIOR to invasion -- the invasion changed the circumstances prior to invasion no way was Ukraine joining
4. If Ukraine seeks the protection of NATO trhat is their choice , their RIGHT ...and they DO want it If NATO allow there is nothing to stop that .- russia has no right to intervene in enighbours affairs - Ukraine is a sovereign country not some russian vassal as much as you seem to want that
5. certainly russia hates NATO - not because of their own security or they would have lots of troops on NATO borders now - THEY DON'T ! russia know NATO would never attack them which is why all the border troops are now in Ukraine leaving thosew borders so vulnerable to attack But russia hate NATO because an expasionist russia is not able to invade a NATO member - NATO is the russian bear spray
