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Originally posted by moorookamick: ↑

You say:

"The decision to break the EU agreement, the decision to unleash violence on protestors, the decision to abandon the presidency and flee to Russia, all of these the key decisions leading to the change in Ukraine government had nothing to do with anyone else but Putin’s puppet and Putin."

Fair enough so long as you agree that these events led to the current war starting with the Russian Federation (Not Putin)
annexing the Crimea because the Russian federation didn't want the Crimea (Russia's premium warm water Naval Port)
within enemy territory (ie within a NATO member's territory)

Add to that what was effectively a civil war in Donbass and you have the motivating quinella...eh?

So there are 2 big questions:
(a) a Are Ukrainians better off now than before 2013?

(b) Is the Ukraine winning the war?

Honest answers to both questions are essential if we are to be "outcome focused " not ideologically focused.
War and the decisions made leading up to war are subsequently measured by outcomes; not denials or wishful thinking...eh?

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At present the Ukraine is a "Rump State"
The question is will it be a more "Rump State" in the future?
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