Neither here nor there whether I believe what some potentially 'cherry picked' individuals or individuals who might be under duress might or might not say. Proves nothing in the scheme of things. I'm sure you/me/anyone could toss up heaps of stuff presenting an opposing view/completely different story in the fog of war.
Look at the bigger picture and especially carefully scrutinise some of the sources you're relying on and what might be motivating/driving them.
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