Russia Ukraine war

Originally posted by bellcurve ↑

With talk on this thread about a need for a negotiated peace, it's an opportune time to reflect on how that possibility played out soon after the Russian invasion.

in an essay republished April 2 in John Menadue's weekly Pearls & Irritations entitled "Americans are starting to realize they've been lied to about Ukraine" writer Donald Smith had the piece published first in Global Research on March 25.

he said in it the "essay is a summary of what the U.S. government has been hiding about the war in Ukraine, with links to sources for further information."

the following are excerpts from the essay.

"Likewise, the American Conservative published Why Peace Talks, But No Peace? (The U.S. has prevented earnest negotiations and prolonged the war in Ukraine.):

"Three separate times in the early weeks of the war, negotiations produced the real possibility of peace. The third even yielded a tentative agreement that was, according to Putin, signed. Both sides made “huge concessions,” including Ukraine promising each time not to join NATO. But each time, the U.S. put a stop to the promise of a diplomatic solution and peace, allowing the war to go on and to escalate, seemingly in the pursuit of U.S., not Ukrainian, interests.

"In fact, according to Ukrainian Official Confirms Russia Was Ready to End War in March 2022 If Kyiv Agreed to Neutrality:

"David Arakhamia, a high-ranking member of Volodymyr Zelensky’s Servant of the People political party, said that Kyiv could have ended the war with Russia after a month if it agreed not to join NATO. The official said that Moscow was not concerned about other issues, such as “denazification,” but only wanted Kyiv to agree to neutrality.

"In an interview with TV channel 1+1, a Ukrainian network, Arakhamia confirmed previous reporting that Moscow and Kyiv had nearly agreed to end the war in March 2022. Still, Ukraine’s Western backers pushed it to try to win the war against Russia."

Bellcurve: what sort of complete and utter mess has the US lied it's way into this time.

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More Kremlin/ International Socialist talking points. No one in their right mind would ever consider any agreement with Putin would be honoured. The whole disgusting mess that is now called Russia is created by a leader with a criminal mindset and not an honest bone in his body

Below is a summary of the truth, not what Bellcurve wants it to be.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-offered-end-war-if-ukraine-dropped-nato-bid-kyiv-official-1847373

Arakhamia also said that Ukrainian officials did not trust Russia to uphold their end of the bargain.
"There is no, and there was no, trust in the Russians that they would do it. That could only be done if there were security guarantees," he told Moseychuck....

.......Sources who spoke with Reuters said the Russian leader told his negotiations that the deal "did not go far enough and that he had expanded his objections to include annexing swathes of Ukrainian territory."
Russia currently occupies large parts of southern and eastern Ukraine, and Kyiv has said that the war will not end unless the annexed territory is returned to Ukraine's control.

Zelensky said earlier this month that reaching an end to the war would require "the restoration of territorial integrity, rights and the freedom of citizens. Another stage of the war is the restoration of justice."

"The restoration of sovereignty is the main principle for ending the hot stage of the war," the Ukrainian president added. "Everything will end in peace."

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