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Originally posted by redpencil: ↑

More Kremlin/ International Socialist talking points. No one in their right mind would ever consider any agreement with Putin would be honoured. The whole disgusting mess that is now called Russia is created by a leader with a criminal mindset and not an honest bone in his body

Below is a summary of the truth, not what Bellcurve wants it to be.

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-offered-end-war-if-ukraine-dropped-nato-bid-kyiv-official-1847373

Arakhamia also said that Ukrainian officials did not trust Russia to uphold their end of the bargain.
"There is no, and there was no, trust in the Russians that they would do it. That could only be done if there were security guarantees," he told Moseychuck....

.......Sources who spoke with Reuters said the Russian leader told his negotiations that the deal "did not go far enough and that he had expanded his objections to include annexing swathes of Ukrainian territory."
Russia currently occupies large parts of southern and eastern Ukraine, and Kyiv has said that the war will not end unless the annexed territory is returned to Ukraine's control.

Zelensky said earlier this month that reaching an end to the war would require "the restoration of territorial integrity, rights and the freedom of citizens. Another stage of the war is the restoration of justice."

"The restoration of sovereignty is the main principle for ending the hot stage of the war," the Ukrainian president added. "Everything will end in peace."

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redpencil thanks for confirming that Russia offered to end the war if Ukraine dropped its bid to join NATO.

that was exactly the same as the passage i was quoting.

So the Ukrainians decided on a course of action that has seen their nation wrecked based on their own paranoia about what Putin might or might not do.

seems like a pretty high price to pay because they wanted to cling to their own paranoia.

not the sharpest tools in the shed.
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