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Originally posted by tangs: ↑

is that why US imposed restriction on the ise of weapons all this time ......still have restrictions ??
No - just doesn't stand scrutiny ......US has been careful NOT to push too hard ....if they had there'd be boots on the ground already .

US don't want it ......Europe don't want it .......russia doesn't want it and could never handle it !

Incremental certainly is correct ......but no freedoms given to Ukraine that russia haven't already had - still less .....no advantage given to Ukraine over russia .....for instance F-16's will help ....they won't give air superiority or clsoe to it .
You can call iot escalatry if you chjoose but no more so thjan many things russia have done .

This silly idea of telling the west ....."just get out of the road and let us win" or making threats that can't be followed up on won't cut it anymore .
If putin wants to negotiate ....the west may be open to that but needs to be more than stating a list of ridiculous demands - needs to be a preparedness to give some ground .

the only equaity here is with nukes .....then the devil is in the detail with air defence and delivery systems but still my understanding - NO WINNERS in a nuke war

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I think they are saying escalation increases risk of dangerous consequences. NATO vs Russia, yes for now via Ukraine proxy and NATO set the rules on the Ukrainians and program the targets and configure the advanced long range missiles etc, I mean given they paid for it it's their call. Russia is warning NATO to keep it confined to Ukraine. There are no rules just potential consequences for further escalation.

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