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Originally posted by muyakea: ↑

OK, I take back what I said. I think what you need to realize is that there really is no difference in the major parties in Western countries, we vote one out and we pretty much get the same again with some tinkering round the edges.

I don't want to start a Trump debate in this thread but ask yourself a few questions:

1. How many wars did Trump start in his presidency?

2. How many rogue countries did he seek to reign in via tougher action (Iran) or actually talking to them North Korea. He did not use war as a tool of state craft.

3. Did Putin play up when Trump was president? He took Crimea under Obama and attacked Ukraine under Biden.

4. Who warned about the weakness of NATO and was literally laughed out of town by the other NATO leaders?

5. Who warned Germany about reliance on Russian energy?

6. Do the Americans via the CIA and Dept of state interfere in foreign elections? What's stopping them using the same tools in their own country? I was awake when the vote swung in key states, there were numerous discrepencies that were never investigated eg, pooling booths had closed.

He was well ahead of the game as its turned out yet the media go after him, they use the legal system to go after him and yet he keeps rising in the polls. The big plus with Trump is he hates war, he has seen the veterans hospitals and the carnage they cause. Its why I prefer him over any of these other war mongering a holes.

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you haven't noticed that Germany have weaned themselves off russ oil and gas already ??

they get it elsewhere now .....the gas largely from Norway .
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