what you don't say ,but always seem to assume ,is that russia...

what you don't say ,but always seem to assume ,is that russia has some special right over their neighbour to make their decisions for them

makes no sense

russia were never wooried by NATO in a security sense - only in the sense that NATO enabled countries to make choices independant of Moscow and deprived russia of control of these countries

if you doubt the lack of security concern ....look at the near naked borders now with NATO when russia is most vulnerable ....becuase russia KNOW NATO never wanted to ....and even if they, did could never (NUKES), attack russia
then there's the air defenses sent to Ukraine from all over russia .....and the fact this war directly caused two more NATO countries very very close to russia and no less of a security concern than Ukraine ......was never about security ....was about projecting power and russian expansion .

...and I really can't believe any of you were really dumb enough to believe it was .....this was just another excuse ....like the nazi excuse ....like the coup excuse ....like the hypermilitarised excuse .....like the lie Ukraine were victimising russian speakers .....no quality excuse so go for quantity