what you probably don't understand is that while NATO membership...

what you probably don't understand is that while NATO membership is the holy grail for Ukraine it isn't necessary to see them defended .

If Kyiv for example were seriously attacked by russia , I believe the west would step in .....draw a line in the sand for russia and say ....no further !
Boots on the ground if needed .

that line has to be drawn somewhere , NATO understands this ....countries that border russia REALLY understand it .

rule of law and borders in Europe need to be enforced .....and when it comes right down to it NATO has way more force than putin has .....and in russias present weakened state , way way more force .