My reference was the most recent Ukraine BBC war map .
I assume that that is not propaganda .
If not propaganda, then the Ukraine has lost about 18% of
its territory to Russia since 2014.
Do you call that winning from a Ukrainian point of view?
If you do , then you are peddling propaganda, mate, IMO.
FYI, if you think that the BBC map is propaganda, then
here is a recent Kyiv Post map:
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