the proxy war excuse is a pretext for russia stealing land for Ukraine .....together with the twinlies of Ukraine being a nazi country and Ukraine being hypermilitarised
all quite pathetic to any thing person
there was no war with NATO until russia attacked Ukraine .....there still isn't .....directly....this war was russias choice and not something either Ukraine or NATO wanted
(Nor is Ukraine the only part of the old russ/USSR empire that putin covets )
the truth is .....Ukraine were attacked specificaly because they WERE NOT part of NATO .
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