You advertently or uinadvertently miss the point:-Georgia has...

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    You advertently or uinadvertently miss the point:

    -Georgia has not yet joined NATO
    -Moldova has not yet joined NATO
    -Ukraine has not yet joined NATO
    -Belarus has not yet joined NATO

    In summary since 2008 there has been
    no more encroachment of NATO is the Black Sea area.

    When all 4 above are inducted into NATO, then
    I'll believe you that NATO led by the USA has won
    and, conversely , Russia has lost.

    In the meantime...its a work in progress from both sides'
    point of view.

    PS:IMO the Ukraine will, more probable than not, end up
    as a non-NATO Rump State economically supported long term by the EC.
    Last edited by moorookamick: 09/09/24
 
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