...and of course we can see why Ukraine reaqlly needed to join...

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    ...and of course we can see why Ukraine reaqlly needed to join ......Georgia were invaded and had land stolen by russia .....what was russias excuse there ??

    but of course it wasn't about NATO because :
    1 .Ukraine were barred form joining both by the NATO comnstitution after 2014 and trhe fighting on russian soil but also by several countiries vetoing
    2.russia stole their land ....that's what it was always about


    russian aggression and land stealing in 2014 was before the talk of joining NATO

    as usual your argument is an excuse for russia that does not match facts
 
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