Russia Ukraine war

Originally posted by tangs: ↑

Landy
Shoigu has said today there will be no negotiation .

Putin only makes demands .

But you don't want peace anyway ......all you want is a way fior putin to lock in some gains .
Peace could come by rrussia getting their troops OUT of a nation they have noi right to be in ......BUT neither your or Keg , or Mook or the other pretend peacniks would be the least bit suppoortive of that ....... you supported the aggression .....you want it to see at least some success .

the truth is you are all pro russian and wish to see russia win ...and Ukraine and the west lose .......but you try not to be to truthful in that regard .

what I wish to see is justice and fairness !
and failing that ......at least something reasonable that leaves Ukraine secure into the future ......based on a lot more than any worhtless putin promise such as the ones he has already broken to Ukraine .
Ukraine should've kept their nukes then this war would not have been possible .

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is that reallyi news for you bro? putin sais it from the start of the kursk incursion. if there were any prosepcts of negotiations, ukrainian gov threw them out the window as soon as they crossed over into russia. which means ukrainiasn "bargaining chip" objective, as well as their "forcing russia to negotiate on ukraines terms" objective has failed

lolololo. thats how negotiations work bro. one side makes demands. another side makes demands. they get together, sit down, discuss things. many times. make compromises. find solutions. its called diplomacy matey. something that netiher ukraine nor its western backers know nothing about.

march-april 2022. the offer that was on the table. crimea recognized as a part of russia. dpr and lpr get their autonomy . ukraine remains neutral and decreases their army size. in exchange for security guarantees from several parties. nuland just admitted in her latest interview that they advised ukraine not to go for it. and look at ukraine now? lost lpr, dpr, crimea and potentially about to lose a whole lot more territories in the next few months

what is wrong with you man, seriously? if ukraine went ahead with that agreement, that would have been it. peace. no death, no destruction. international organisations would have surely got involved to make sure there were no escalations. i mean it could have been negotiated, if ukraine didnt abandon the negotiations at the whim of the "west".

and now you sit there and pretend like you support ukraine....aaahahahaa lololol. no you don't. you support damage being dealt to russia. which has nothing to do with well being of ukraine. because that damage comes at the expanse of ukrainian lives and territories. all your rhetoric and all your logic is foolish and wreaks of a pro-nato bot.