Russia Ukraine war

Originally posted by tangs: ↑

Firstly - 20% of Ukraine taken by Russia - doubt it - looks more like 10% to me !
Secnd you make it sound like Odessa capture inevitable although particularly with the carnage in the Russian fleet - not at all inevitable .

Apart from that ,what you say is possible - also far from inevitable !
Both sides are losing soldiers losing equipment and Russian losses have ben much greater to this point .
Also Ukraine being re-supplied from the west .
Because of these two things what started as a very one sided contest is more even now .

But this has become apart from anything else a war of attrition and we'll see who lasts the longest in terms of force of effective military power .

The other assumption you make is that Z will agree to a settlement if Russia does gain the ascendancy - he may well choose to fight on regardless of cost . Certainly the indication he's given so far .

F8ck what US wants !
Your true colours come out at the end of the post when you completely fail to recognise what Russia sought to achieve - biting off more land - and trying to make it sound like some US plot !
That just utter BS !
You can't logically blame an unjustifiable Russian invasion of a peaceful nation on anyone except RUSSIA !

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You misinterpret what I'm aying.

There's a difference between:
(a) Wishful thinking (I'm with you there, I honestly hope that the Ukraine will
win the war, expel the Russians , secure its borders, rebuild its cities, repatriate
its citizens and grow its economy into the 22nd C.
(b) That Russian will insulate itself from NATO) territorially by carving off a slice
of Ukrainian territory on its western border and relegating the Ukraine to being a landlocked
state without the economic prospects to fight a protracted guerilla war.
(c) That the Russian regime will be debunked (military coup or a popular domestic uprising
due to the severe economic impact of the Sanctions)
and that the Ukrainian position before Feb 2022 is restored enabling it to join the EC & NATO.

(Keep in mind that NATO knocked back The Ukraine's membership application in 2008 because the Ukraine then
had border problems in Donesk & The Crimea.)

I'm with you, mate, in hope, but my better judgement tells me a different outcome is likely.
Russia has the ability to take out all Ukrainian airports, ports, railway & road links within 48 hours if it choose to do so
via remotely controlled aerial bombardment and keep in mind that it controls all Ukrainian airspace
now and NATO blankly refuses to interfere.

What's left of the Ukraine's premium Azov Battalion is holed out in the Steelworks with the prospect
or either being entombed there or taken prisoner . Remember that sa spokes person for thos Battalion
said a month ago that they would castrate any Russian Soldiers it captued?. This, IMO, is why they will
have to fight to the death now at the hands of the Russian Soldiers who still have their balls!

So, I'll ask you again:
What outcome do you predict & why?