Russia Ukraine war, page-27626

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    Is there any propaganda you won't believe ?

    YES! There is!!

    I don't believe:
    - the Muscova ship*, pride of the Russian navy in the Black Sea, was sunk due to accidental fire. It was deliberate fire, make no mistake AND and it came from the Ukrainians.
    - the Special Operation over or even almost over.
    - that Putin is justified in threatening Russians with 15 years jail if they dare call the SO a war (which clearly it is)
    - that Putin was popularly elected in a fair election process
    - that Putin is anything but deluded and verging on criminally insane
    - that the vast majority of Ukrainians who speak Russian want to be ruled by Putin, or a Putin puppet
    - that Putin had or still has anything to celebrate on Victory Day, what a misjudgement, he should have resigned in disgrace instead of trying to leverage the goodwill of antifascism (what a Loser!)
    - that Putin sincerely cares about eliminating fascist elements, since he employs them for his own devices, in his own army and in his other wars
    - that NATO is an aggressor to Russia
    - that NATO actively recruits other nations. Rather, they come to NATO
    - that the Ukrainian people as a whole don't know what's good for them- they do! they want to join the EU and they'd rather risk death, or die than live under the Putin regime.
    - that Putin isn't suffering from a loss of face and a loss of confidence by those around him.
    - that the Russian military is competent**, adept, full of dedication to fighting, well disciplined and well behaved, humanitarian, and trustworthy with the property of others
    - that Putin has eliminated all enemies within the FSB and the military, and the elites.
    - that fascists in Ukraine are what threaten Putin and caused him to go to war- rather, their numbers are very limited, and he's actually threatened by the rise and success of Ukraine as a free, democratic and capitalist country. Why? Because people living in Russia are alive to the advantages of this system and will agitate for it.This threatens Putin's leadership.

    BUT there's more!!!

    LOL

    * Funny that you mention Snake Island, since the ship that threatened the Ukrainians on Snake Island is now sunk, along with most of the crew.
    You should buy a commemorative stamp.

    ** funny that you mention the Ghost of Kiev, since despite having superior numbers and planes, Russia hasn't got dominance of the skies over Ukraine. A massive failure. What's a bit of hyperbole surrounding Ukrainian Air Force heroes who have been vastly outnumbered and demonstrably have Russians on their knees? Harmless. If the Ukrainians weren't heroes, and doing near impossible feats I'd think you had a point.

    You're grasping at straws mate!

 
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