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Originally posted by Crom Valen: ↑

You can say the same thing about any war: WWI - ‘France are fighting to the last Frenchman, Germany are fighting to the last German, Russia are fighting to fighting to the last Russian, Serbia are fighting to the last Serbian….it’s just stupid sloganeering that doesn’t actually mean anything at all. You could come up with a dopey phrase such as ‘Russia is fighting to the last Chechen’ about this war also.

I know you are distressed about the war and desperate to stop it but from the Ukrainian side the preconditions are not there for negotiations to take place. Over 80% of the Ukrainian people are against making any territorial concessions to Russia so it is what it is.

More absurd is you calling the Ukrainians fight a ‘lost cause’. Russia are currently unable to take one regional city in Luhansk called Severodonetsk, and they have been trying for weeks. That should not give anyone any great confidence that Russia can achieve its war aims. If anything, it could indicate that a turning point on the war is approaching.

In WWII in 1941 the Germans were only miles from Moscow. With the help of US weapons and supplies, the Germans were ultimately defeated.
Military experts Szaba and Ockeg (and others who post here) would have said Russia was fighting a ‘lost cause’, that the Germans would clearly hold all the captured territory as they had been able to capture it so that means they will always be able to hold it, and that the US should not provide any weapons or supplies as that is ‘only making things worse’. Again, we know how the war turned out. Things can change quite rapidly.

The posters who are whingeing that Ukraine doesn’t stand a chance and western weapons deliveries must cease and negotiations must take place urgently are, imo, wolves in sheeps clothing who are actually hoping that the war ends soon so their beloved Putin comes out looking victorious with a whole lot of ill-gotten Ukrainian territory and resources.

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Let the war take its course then

Choices always exist. Could the sides have negotiated peace earlier in ww1? The result was a ww2

idk the outcome but I would have thought Ukraine could use a breather at least to regroup and rearm.
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