the 14,000 killed weren't all on the one side and they want all civillians ... you continually try to misrepresnt this
further in the last few years before the invasion the casualties were very light
all this stuff has come up before and you're aware of it but just prefer the lie !
but this is simply one of putins pretexts ...it was really a land grab as he has just proved
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