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19/09/17
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Originally posted by whereu
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"I would like to ask how we "should" take the likes of the following verses.
Jesus says, my sheep hear my voice.
You don't hear God's word because you are not of God.
God says, if you fall away from the truth, (first oracles of God) he will send delusions and you will believe lies = You won't know.
You are born of God if his seed (his word) is accepted and abides in you - your living by it.
Surely, or it would seem, and for example, if your not sure if Jesus is God or God alone is God, you have not got the first basics of truth= Born again of what? Can't be the true God."
You believe this which is written by somebody - yet you claim to refrain from believing something just because somebody wrote it. Believing this is just believing it because someone wrote it.
"Don't get me wrong, this is Not saying or suggesting some are special, it just says, one is following or coming from the first basics of truth and therefore, led and Guided by God and Jesus as the Bible says this Will happen = their not any more special than anyone that chooses to follow God's truth and not their own."
You believe what is written because you believe "somebody" who wrote it. Furthermore, this includes believing the claim that what is written is true because "somebody" wrote that it's true. You believe this is true because "somebody" who wrote it says that it is true.
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What you cover here has absolutely ZERO relevance to what I was seeking and that is clearly SHOWN in my post starting at the second line in.
I would like to think I'm wrong, however, it "appears" your tunnel vision of your beliefs seem to have prevented you from simply giving an opinion/thought in/on a hypothetical. Your not alone, Mr G will never take part in them either, why I have no idea???
Never mind!