The part of my post you quote = hmmm, my word order was rather...

First 15 Last

Share
Profile

Follow
wotsup

23,111 Posts.

1

17/09/17

19:56

Post #: 27275574
Share

Originally posted by MrGordon ↑

Never the less, soul/spirit being eternal etc is not something I would insist on to bogged down on without assessing it properly as I have done on the word subject - layout ALL verses and let them speak.
------------
Wotsup, I mentioned that the soul is not in a person and you set out to speak about the spirit as though they are the same. They are not!
A soul is a breathing creature of some sort and therefore is not IN the creature it IS the creature. Souls die!
Ezekiel 18:⁴ Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. - KJV
We can pray to God for a new spirit as did the psalmist.
(Psalm 51:10) Create in me a pure heart, O God, And put within me a new spirit, a steadfast one.
Anyone that is stubbornly resistant to the leading of God's spirit will be unable to change. It is necessary to cultivate meekness. All of us should therefore plead for Jehovah's help in the matter.

(Zephaniah 2:2, 3) Before the decree takes effect, Before the day passes by like chaff, Before the burning anger of Jehovah comes upon you, Before the day of Jehovah’s anger comes upon you, 3 Seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, Who observe his righteous decrees. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger.

Expand

The part of my post you quote = hmmm, my word order was rather shocking, obviously in to much of a rush this morning as we had to look at a house of one of the potential builders we may use.

No I'm not saying or suggesting soul and spirit are one in the same.
You say the soul is the whole you, package. (I think that's what you said) if so, that includes the brain and hence it thinks.
The verse I quoted clearly talks of mans spirit thinking, has thoughts. Now that spirit although from God is not the Holy Spirit.
So effectively, there are two thinkers haha.

You say Jesus before coming was a Spirit, we know that was not or couldn't be the Holy Spirit and we know he also received within, the Holy Spirit at his Baptism.

As for the renewing of your existing spirit = the same one is perfected or improved and that is done with the help of God's Spirit dwelling with yours. Hence put off the fleshy and put on the Spiritual.
But one has to be careful in comparing OT & NT verses in this area (not saying your wrong using these verses).

While you are in your Unity mindset, these areas, we will probably never reach common ground.
How you understand the comforter subject with the Unity thought, I have no idea?
To me it seems to you, it's ALL a mind alone transformation, on your own. If that be the case, IMO your in troubled waters.
I hope I'm wrong with my guestimation here.
Don't suggest my thoughts are from trinity land as you should know me be now, I follow no man.
Upvote

Reply