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Originally posted by pear
Hi Mr Gordon

All very well and no issues from me there.

But you may reconsider that you said you are not Christians but are obedient to Jesus' words.

While you at it, may I ask you if you believe that Hitler was in God's plan to persecute the Jews for straying?

Pear
Pear, I never said Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. I said we are ''no part of Christendom''.
Porphyry, a third-century philosopher from Tyre and an opposer of Christianity, raised the question “as to whether followers of Jesus, rather than Jesus himself, were responsible for the distinctive form of the Christian religion. Porphyry (and Julian [fourth-century Roman emperor and opposer of Christianity]) showed, on the basis of the New Testament, that Jesus did not call himself God and that he preached, not about himself, but about the one God, the God of all. It was his followers who abandoned his teaching and introduced a new way of their own in which Jesus (not the one God) was the object of worship and adoration. . . . [Porphyry] put his finger on a troubling issue for Christian thinkers: does the Christian faith rest on the preaching of Jesus or on the ideas forged by his disciples in the generations after his death?”—The Christians as the Romans Saw Them.
Jesus will soon reject Christendom.
(Matthew 7:21-23) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’

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Hi Mr Gordon

Pear, I never said Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. I said we are ''no part of Christendom''.
Porphyry, a third-century philosopher from Tyre and an opposer of Christianity, raised the question “as to whether followers of Jesus, rather than Jesus himself, were responsible for the distinctive form of the Christian religion. Porphyry (and Julian [fourth-century Roman emperor and opposer of Christianity]) showed, on the basis of the New Testament, that Jesus did not call himself God and that he preached, not about himself, but about the one God, the God of all. It was his followers who abandoned his teaching and introduced a new way of their own in which Jesus (not the one God) was the object of worship and adoration. . . . [Porphyry] put his finger on a troubling issue for Christian thinkers: does the Christian faith rest on the preaching of Jesus or on the ideas forged by his disciples in the generations after his death?”—The Christians as the Romans Saw Them.

You seem to be a very confused lad.

It seems to me that you have no idea what you believe in. If you don't believe in the new testament which you are inferring, why do you keep quoting it?

And you keep quoting revelations?

Why don't you just call yourself a Jew? If Jesus was just a man as you say, what the big deal with the Jews rejecting him?

Pear