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Originally posted by wotsup ↑

First up, to some degree, your faith runs rings around many in twisting and manipulating God's word.

What was the bounty and loving favour of God for Jews in 500BC?
John 5:39 - Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. --> Not

Bahá'ís 
.

“I have much more to say to you, more than...... 
you .......
can now bear."
John 16:12

Example -->
John 10:1 & 9 -
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. (The word of God).

John 14:6 -
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Luke 21:33 - Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
John 12:49 - For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:48 - He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: -->the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
John 1:1 In the beginning was "the Word" .....................and God was "the Word".

The word, the same --> John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you,they are spirit, and they are life. --> The cross, ALL things is Jesus's hands until death NO More, = Why in God's and Jesus name would I even think of following Bahá'ís 
.

John 17:17 - Sanctify them through thy truth:
thy word is truth.
So right here, we have The Spirit of Truth (The Word is Truth = God).
So Jesus had the Spirit/Word in him, Spirit of Truth, The Almighty God and Father IN Him without measure, anointed Luke 4:18 & John 3:34.
This obviously would leave when Jesus left, hence --> John 14:16-17 - And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[SIZE=16px]the [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]Spirit of truth;[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] whom the world cannot receive, because it [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]seeth him [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][COLOR=rgb(0,0,255)][SIZE=16px][B](God) [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]not,[/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] neither knoweth [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]him [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][COLOR=rgb(0,0,255)][SIZE=16px][B](God)[/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]:[/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] but ye know him; for he [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. --> [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px]2 Cor 6:16 - [/SIZE][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will [/SIZE][B]dwell in them,[/B][SIZE=16px] and walk in [/SIZE][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][I][I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]them[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/I][/I][SIZE=16px][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=16px]1 Cor 3:16 - [/SIZE][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][I][I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]that[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/I][/I][SIZE=16px][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px] the [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]Spirit of God dwelleth in you?[/SIZE]
[/SIZE][/B]
[SIZE=16px]John 14:26 - [/SIZE][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]But the Comforter,[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][SIZE=16px][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px] the Holy Ghost, whom the [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]Father will send [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]in my name,[/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px] he shall teach you all things, [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.[/SIZE]

[B][SIZE=16px]So right here, The Word, Comforter, Spirit of Truth, the another, Father and God ARE one in The SAME, hence;[/SIZE][/B]
[SIZE=16px]John 16:13-15 - [/SIZE][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]Howbeit when [/SIZE][B]he,[/B][SIZE=16px] the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [/SIZE][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][I][I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]that[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/I][/I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] shall he speak: and [/SIZE][B]he will shew you things to come. --> (False teachings etc [I][LEFT][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(33,33,33)][SIZE=14px]Bahá'ís [/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/LEFT][/I][SIZE=14px][BCOLOR=rgb(255,255,255)][LEFT][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(33,33,33)].)[/COLOR][/FONT][/LEFT][/BCOLOR][/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT]
[SIZE=16px][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][B]He shall glorify me: [/B][SIZE=16px]for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew [/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][I][I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px]it[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/I][/I][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=rgb(0,19,32)][BCOLOR=transparent][SIZE=16px] unto you.[/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

All things that the 
Father hath are mine:
therefore
said I,
that he shall take of mine, and 
shall shew
unto you.

YOU should know full well, it was the Almighty God and Father, the One Spirit of Truth that glorified Jesus.
So in God's and Jesus's names, The Word AND The Word of God would I follow another Jesus and another Spirit of Truth = Bahá'ís ??? [IMG]https://hotcopper.com.au/images/smilies/eek.png[/IMG]

Heb 13:8 - Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day,
and for ever. --> It is Finished and if you don't accept THIS Authority of His, The Word of God, that is what will judge YOU.
As he said, his words will NOT change, same yesterday and forever.
Matt 24:13 - But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Matt 10:22 - And ye shall be hated of all for my name's sake: (The Word of God) but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

So this enduring, is holding fast to the Truth of the words he spoke.
----------------------------

send ANOTHER Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, who will tell us the things that we could NOT BEAR to hear at the time of Jesus, has indeed come!

Your bolded words here, are not more than YOUR OWN creation and again, to TRY and force in your said Prophet who apparently is supposed to have discussed whose womb he would enter = what a load of ????????????????????
Has indeed come ->> 2 Cor 11:4 - For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, (Ignoring Paul's) which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

John 14:26 - But the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Father will show what was given to Jesus --> The Word of God, Glory.
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Now as for this rubbish, they didn't know Jesus name, right back in Gen, we have reference to this future one, hence Jesus saying, you search the scriptures.
By inheritance, exalted he has the name -- The word of God, all things in his hands as per the prophesies.
Before all things, in the mind and plans of God was to be Jesus, pre-slain etc, all were and are to come through him and for him, reason of, because of, for the sake of etc, hence He was raised from the dead, so through him, literally now, all things hold together through him = ALL.
Eph 4:4 - [B][SIZE=16px]one body,[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px] and [/SIZE][SIZE=16px][B]one Spirit,[/B][/SIZE][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]even as ye are called in [/SIZE][/SIZE][COLOR=rgb(255,0,0)][SIZE=16px][B]one hope [/B][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]of your calling;[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

One Almighty God and Father, Holy Spirit, The One Spirit of Truth, The Word, the True Light.
One Jesus the Christ, named, exalted, inheritance --> The Word of God, became a light into the world at Baptism.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Seriously, how you can keep a straight face with what you suggest many verses are saying, is incredible?

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I ask one simple question about how God would save souls before Jesus name comes into the world and I get an essay on "not Baha’is"

Wotsup, I can give you an equally long Jewish essay on "not Christians" but I at least expect you to answer the question.

Before Jesus's name came into existence (e.g 500BC) what was the way to God?

What about those who live in the Amazon and have never heard the name Jesus? Are they not saved? No salvation for them?

I'm starting to see myself as more loving than this "All-Loving God" you are painting for us.

Please answer the question dear friend

Kam

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