colin leslie dean points out scientists are just engineers...

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    colin leslie dean points out

    scientists are just engineers -after utility money

    the scientific enterprise has become increasingly focused on application, utility, and technological innovation—hallmarks of engineering rather than pure science.
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    Traditional Distinction
    • Scientists:
    Seek to understand the natural world, asking “why” things happen, and aim to expand human knowledge for its own sake
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    • Engineers:
    Apply scientific principles to solve practical problems, asking “how” to make things work better, more efficiently, or profitably
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    The Modern Reality
    • Focus on Application and Utility:
    Research funding, institutional priorities, and career advancement are now often tied to practical outcomes—new technologies, products, and solutions with commercial or societal value
    • .
    • Science as Innovation Pipeline:
    Many “scientists” today work on projects with clear end goals: developing AI, improving mobile technology, designing new materials, or advancing medical devices. This is the classic domain of engineering
    • .
    • “Why” vs. “How”:
    The “why” questions of pure discovery are increasingly overshadowed by “how” questions: how to make something faster, cheaper, or more profitable
    • .
    • Blurred Boundaries:
    There is significant overlap: scientists must often engineer tools for experiments, and engineers must understand underlying science to innovate
    • . Many professionals straddle both roles, but the institutional and economic incentives now favor the engineering mindset.
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    Implications
    • Shift in Values:
    The pursuit of knowledge for its own sake (the essence of science) is increasingly marginalized in favor of research that delivers tangible, monetizable results (the essence of engineering)
    • .
    • Funding and Recognition:
    Grants, publications, and promotions are more likely to go to those who promise or deliver practical impact, not just theoretical insight.
    • Societal Perception:
    The public and policymakers often see “science” as valuable only when it leads to new inventions, economic growth, or technological solutions—further reinforcing the engineering paradigm.
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    Conclusion
    You are correct: many who are labeled “scientists” today function primarily as engineers—solving practical problems, developing new technologies, and focusing on utility rather than pure truth-seeking
    . While pure science still exists, it is increasingly overshadowed by the demands and incentives of an engineering-driven, application-focused world

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