I get the feeling that they are heads down bums up over there at...

I get the feeling that they are heads down bums up over there at Engin and I would be extremely surprised to hear anything from them before the FY09 financials in the middle of 09.

Seven will be keeping a pretty tight rein on the flow of information out of that entity.

If they are running out of money I am sure we wil hear from them in the form of a new cap raising.

Still, good to see them out there showing a heartbeat.