Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
sharemarkets rigged by trading robots ..., page-33
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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Sharenot so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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Sharere: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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Sharere: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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Sharelook who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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Sharere: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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ShareThere are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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Sharesandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.
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ShareVery direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.
A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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Sharerogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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ShareSo you can see both sides of the story matty.
I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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ShareAgree seuss.
I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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ShareI know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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ShareWe'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!
We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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ShareI am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)
I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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ShareI find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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ShareShadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Sharere: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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ShareMaybe this sheds some light on it ............................
He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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ShareI get your drift joewolf.
The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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ShareI have written complaints to ASIC (and ASX when they were the regulators some years back), maybe 300 times in total, their responses beggar belief, they're either on the tak from the big broking houses, or dont understand how to do their jobs, here's a response from them, and one from my broker at the time comsec, i no longer trade shares as i virtually gone bust, just hoping a few dregs i have left come to life maybe years down the track. A Royal Commision into ASX "trading" by hedge funds and ASIC's inaction is totally warranted, i've got enough evidence to lock quite a few bastards up for a long time.
have a read of this email i fired off to Comsec last year, and then the story in the SMH underneath it, we retailers are playing against a stacked deck.
Attention : SENIOR MANAGEMENT OF COMSEC ACCOUNTS
To whom it may concern
I have been a Comsec client for around 7 years, and have lost nearly all my life savings on the stock market due to manipulation, which is obviously beyond comsec's control...but in this instance...COMSEC have accepted an order that i can not place, being to far away from current price. I've had 2 sell orders purge in recent times due to the falling share price, LYC and ALK.
My Lynas (LYC) order was purged recently i think i had it on at a price around the mid 80 cent range, and now they are 49c it got purged...fair enough. HOWEVER, i inquired about the sell orders currently on screen at prices ranging from 86c to a ludicrous $3.60, and was told, that in fact one of the orders, 180,000 at 96 cents, IS A COMSEC SELL ORDER ! How in God's name has that been allowed to be placed by Comsec ????? MY limit sell order would now be at around 82 cents TOPS, so why does ANOTHER COMSEC CLIENT have a special privellage over me ? I know that the order will be purged by ASX after 7pm, that's totally irrelevent, as it will be put back on first thing tomorrow morning (apparently with Comsec's blessing) How come it can be placed in the first instance ? If it was another broker, i could MAYBE accept it (reluctantly at that) but not it being a COMSEC ORDER. It's like you are turning against your own clients. It's bad enough we have to put up with the one and 2 share algo trades every second of the day manipulating the market....but this on top is just a bit too much. Please contact me at your earliest convenience, as i believe that 180k sell order is FRAUDULENT, and a prop, the person/thing who placed it is 90% certain a SHORTER. Lynas wont be hitting 96c any time soon. I know for a fact that Comsec were fined $50,000 for allowing "wash trades" in the last couple of years. It was in the paper, if i dont get a satisfactory outcome to this complaint, i will email the writer of that story in the SMH (see story below)
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Regulator slaps CommSec with $50k fine
September 24, 2012 - 4:51PM
Chris Zappone
smh.com.au
The investment regulator has slapped Commonwealth Bank-owned CommSec with a $50,000 fine for a series of misleading trades conducted in the second half of 2010 to early 2011.
The Australian Securities & Investments Commission said today that CommSec had paid the fine in order to comply with an infringement notice by its markets disciplinary panel for 48 trades that "that allegedly interfered with the efficiency and integrity of the ASX market".
ASIC said CommSec placed 48 trades of Oaks Hotels & Resorts Limited shares that "involved no change in beneficial ownership and falsely represented 11.88 per cent on bona fide volume in (Oaks Hotels shares), creating the misleading appearance of active trading". The trades occurred between August 4, 2010, and January 20, 2011, which CommSec conducted on the account of its client.
CBA said CommSec always sought to operate within regulator guidelines and was concerned ‘‘whenever there are actions taken by our customers that could infringe those guidelines.’’
‘‘In regard to the notice issued by ASIC today, when CommSec became aware of the apparent breaches in February 2011, it reported the matter to an appropriate regulatory authority and immediately closed the customer’s associated accounts,’’ a spokeswoman for CBA said.
‘‘CommSec has fully co-operated with ASIC,’’ she said and ‘‘has also enhanced its control environment to ensure that similar incidents do not recur.’’
CommSec said that the client placed 96 orders in the shares, 48 under the account name of the client and 48 under the account name of the client's wife, which are the subject of the fines.
"The conduct on the part of CommSec appears to have been reckless," said ASIC. Three of the orders triggered filter alerts, and were sent to the designated trading representatives for review "who reviewed and approved them, despite the orders being no change in beneficial ownership" transactions, ASIC said.
"CommSec did have filters and reviews in place regarding no change in beneficial ownership orders," ASIC said. "However, the filters and reviews were inadequate as they were designed only to identify and filter NCBO transactions in which the account number was the same on both sides [of the transaction]."
"The filters and reviews were not designed to filter NCBO transactions from accounts that were connected, but had different account numbers," ASIC said.
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ATTENTION :
Belinda Mai
Please forward this on to market surveylance for me, and could i once again have a receipt. Many thanks.
Hi,
Please investigate the share price manipulation late Friday afternoon June 22nd between 3.45pm and the close of trading at 4.10pm in AGS Alliance Resources
Here are the relevant trades, you will note there was a normal 20k trade at 3.14pm prior to the manipulation, which would have enabled to have the shares close at 18.5 cents. This same thing has happened numerous times in AGS over the past year in particular, and even as far back as their court case started over 2 years ago, these people Qasar/Heathgate Resources have the most to gain by keeping AGS at a low share price. Please go over the 4pm to 4.10pm trading in AGS going back to at least the start of this year and you will see a clear pattern of manipulation emerge. In your reply to me, if you find no wrong-doing here (as is always the case) could you please DEFINE what share price manipulation is for me ? Thanks in advance.
late trades june 22nd, 2012
3:14:45 PM 0.185
20,000 3,700.000
3:58:45 PM 0. 180 44 $7.92
3:58:45 PM 0. 180 133 $23.94
3:58:45 PM 0. 180 29 $5.22
4:10:26 PM 0.175 133 $23.275
and the standard reply
ASX Limited
Facsimile 61 2 9227 0885
www.asx.com.au
Dear xxxx
RE: Alliance Resources Ltd (AGS)
Thank you for raising your concerns with the ASX Group. ASX appreciates information that is received from investors as it assists with our function as a Market Operator.
We have reviewed trading in AGS on 22 June. As you have pointed out, AGS traded at $0.185 at 3.45pm but it traded lower at $0.18 by 3:58pm and on the closing single price auction ("CSPA) at 4:10pm, it traded at $0.175. From our review, we have not seen any indications that the trading was in breach of the ASX Operating Rules.
We note that you are concerned that the above trading may have involved manipulative trading. Any issues of possible market manipulation relates to matters that are outside of ASX’s jurisdiction. As of 1 August 2010, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) have responsibility for the supervision of real time trading and Market Participants. Accordingly ASX cannot assist you with the issue raised as it is outside of ASX’s jurisdiction. ASX’s responsibility as a Market Operator is to monitor and enforce compliance by Participants with the ASX Operating Rules.
Please refer to the link below to find out how you may lodge a complaint with ASIC:
http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.ns...ng about companies or people?openDocument#how
ASIC has further information about market supervision and market integrity which can be viewed by following this link:
http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/ASIC.NSF/byHeadline/Market supervision and surveillance
For more information on the ASX Compliance function please refer to this link:
http://www.asx.com.au/compliance/index.htm
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ShareAt this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.
CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Sharere: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!
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ShareWhat a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!
Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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