For goodness sake Oz Blue move on, you have no idea how excruciatingly boring yours and Hoots and a few others arguments are, have you all got nothing to do with your lives? Try and understand this, there are many of us here who are quite aware of short falls of the company, we really are, but we are also here for the long term, if you have no skin in the company I suggest you have made your points ad nauseum it's no longer of interest.
Cheers to the longtermers
Dossa
PS seriously guys move on to a company that you have interest in.
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