some should never be released.

Originally posted by Scott th Ratbag ↑

even the US has some experimental methods in use to reduce recidivism. the various efforts being made leave Aus looking like 19thC thinkers. not much has improved in our prison system since the early 90s when prisoners rights were recognised and the efforts made to change the culture of prison officers from punishers to security guards, where inmates were classed as being in prison as punishment, instead of for punishment.

and with state govts increasing/tightening laws to lock up more and more people they are creating a more violent recidivist culture.

20 yrs ago I read a research paper from India where they were using Theravedic buddhist practices. they took the most violent offenders in the state and reduced recidivism to approx.10%.

in the NSW prison system, I've seen young fellers in for cannabis supply taken under the wing of major drug dealers in the bin. this is where we they need to start, by separating the novices from the hard crims.

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it's been interesting for me to be in a few places with enough time (more than a holiday visit) to begin to get a sense of culture in different places

there's the way that society treats people in it's justice system - and then, there's the way that the culture of the society is - the home culture, the behaviour in the schools and out and about culture

all I know is that being safe in society - walking the streets, being safe from crime ------

is a complex set of factors which all line up to make a soup for each nation.

Like walking in the streets in Australian towns compared to walking in the streets in England or in France - or in Finland or Iceland etc

it's all very different - and the national cultures are very different and the justice system cultures are very different

It took me quite a while to adjust from Australia to France --

take this case in point -

strip away the white shirt and tie - and you get this

now - in Australia, very often - that's got a strong sniff of bonehead with violent potential

indeed - one can sense it with the white shirt and time - more than the other pic

but, in France - it's literally the opposite ----------- the one's with the bonehead looks are almost always nice blokes, respectful, helpful

the one's you have to watch are the one's you least would suspect

but, in the end - whoever they are - if they end up in the can -------- the can is not a good place in France - vastly different to many of the Nordics - where the people in the street culture is equally nice - but, the jails treat people like humans ------------ AND have low recidivism

to me - when I see low recidivism - the common threads are - nice society AND treat the crims like humans

drop out one factor - and the puzzle doesn't work. That said - Fr is different - it's got harsh jails, but a good home culture - and the personal safety in the streets is good for basic crime. I don't know so much about the two cities of Paris and Marseille - they are even more complex.