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tonio

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06/12/19

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Originally posted by wotsup ↑

How ya goin Tonio and greetings from US, the Almighty God and Father AND Jesus Christ and wotsup.
(Sorry mate, NO greetings from another as in, a god the Holy Spirit BECAUSE the Almighty God and Father is The Holy Spirit).

This man Jesus who is the God of our house, must have always have been God from eternity and will be forever

Oh Tonio, dear me,.....you continue to keep using only snippets of the whole truth OF The Word = The Word of God.

2 Sam 7:12-14 - And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:

Luke 1:35 - And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore (for this reason) also that holy one which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
This is my son.............and Prophesy Psa 2:7- [BCOLOR=#00ffff][SIZE=16px][B]I will[/B][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][BCOLOR=#ffffff][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] declare the decree: Yahweh hath said unto me, Thou [/SIZE][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#001320][SIZE=16px]art[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#001320][BCOLOR=#ffffff][SIZE=16px] my Son; [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]this day[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px] have I [/SIZE][B][SIZE=16px]begotten [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=16px][SIZE=16px]thee.[/SIZE]

[B][SIZE=16px]After the 2nd Adams, Mans, birth, raising etc --> [/SIZE][B][SIZE=6][BCOLOR=#ffffff][LEFT][FONT=Roboto][COLOR=#212121][BCOLOR=#ffffff][SIZE=14px][FONT=Helvetica Neue][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=14px][sup]8 [/sup][/SIZE][SIZE=16px]Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/LEFT][/BCOLOR][/SIZE][/B][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/BCOLOR][/COLOR][SIZE=16px][/SIZE]

Are YOU Tonio, SEEING God's truth here, will be a Son and will be a House to build?
When --> thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed.

must have always have been God from eternity and will be forever --> How the hec then, could the one to be, be Davids SEED if the seed was before David? = Grow up Tonio, turn the lights on!
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The House and the Kingdom, are pretty much one in the same.
And the Bible in places speaks of God's house and God's Kingdom, it also in places speaks of Jesus's house and Jesus's Kingdom, however, it is speaking of the same Kingdom and House.
But that does NOT Make Jesus the Almighty God and Father.

So lets SEE what was before the above prophesies of a future were fulfilled.
Beginning was Dabar --> "The" Dabar and from Dabar comes The Dabar which means all of The Word of Dabar.

Dabar meaning word...........John 1:1 ...............and God WAS the Word (Dabar).
There are three Hebrew letters for the word Dabar and these three letters mean;
Door into a House (Kingdom) to the Head, Aleph Tav, the Almighty God and Father (And God was the Dabar).

Now Tonio, I'm sure you would agree that, after Adam and Eves mishaps, the Door to the House, God, was effectively closed, tossed out of the Garden (House). (Tree of life being God, because if you take from this Tree, God and eat, you live forever, Born again 1 Peter 1:23 etc).

Gal 4:4 - But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, ---> Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
This man Jesus who is the God of our house, must have always have been God from eternity and will be forever
According to what it says here Tonio, Gal 4:4, Jesus was made of a woman and this woman was not around for eternity, making your words, LIES.
Not to mention, the law was not around from eternity either.
And more importantly --> Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

John 4:24 - Spirit the God is......................
Luke 24:39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.--> Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Where does that leave you Wotsup TONIO?

denying Jesus with every breath you take.

To deny that Jesus's first and literal beginning is and was man, flesh, is to deny Jesus came in the flesh and the Bible tells us, you would be an Antichrist.

John 3:35 - The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
John 17:2 - As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Hence Jesus was Given the role, to build, renovate (reopen the Door) to the House, curtain torn.
Jesus then became the Door and the Cornerstone to which we are to bond to and the mortar being --> The Word = The Word of God.

Jesus says the likes of, I have not spoken The Word = the word of God of myself, but what I was given and commanded to say.
And in these words he was Given, is this eternal life 1 Peter 1:23, the word of God and these words are also Water and Spirit John 6:63, 68 and 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom (Dabar) of God.

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Beginning was Dabar --> "The" Dabar and from Dabar comes The Dabar which means all of The Word of Dabar.

Hi Wotsup,
You did not get the above from the Bible. Going online Wotsup and incorporating other men's views
and making them your own is obviously doing your head in.

John has personified the Word.
In the beginning the Word was with the God
The God is not the Word
John 1:2 tells us that God (the Word that was God) was with the God in the beginning

John also writes that the Word became flesh
The Word that was God emptied himself and became man
This man is Jesus

That Wotsup is as you say your first milk
Stop fixating on dabar,
mind and plans of God,
inner and outer Logos

This man Jesus was always God otherwise he could not be the same yesterday, today and forever
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