Your side turn it into an argument, like petulant children.
It can be a discussion.
But the facts get in the way, and when this is actually brought up, the wool has been pulled that far over a vast array of people’s eyes, than a discussion is no more.
Name calling tends to come to the fore.
It all comes down to education (factual and non-imdoctrinated), engagement and experience.
this girl and some of the posters on here have very little of one or all of them, and a finished capacity to actually improve on these assets through life.
There is still some hope left, just look at the silent majority uprising in the west all over the world.