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17/09/21
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Originally posted by pintohoo:
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Oz seems to go out of it's way with the Liberals to make terrible decisions. Look at what 'should' have been the objectives of this whole submarine business 1. dump a deal which you made yourself - but, you think it's a lemon - so, you want to get out of it --------- fair enough objective 2. If you feel there's a real threat - from China and your trading routes to china so you can trade with china (yeah, we know the logic of that one) -- then, yes - if you 'insist on subs' - then, you need a replacement for the deal you are about to pull the pin on.So - there'd be two ways of doing that --------- Option 1. Cancel the French contract. Buy Japanese subs off the shelf AND if you wish - do a secret deal with the USA and whoever else for some sort of military pact.Result - you might upset the Frogs for a bit. You get your subs (cheaper). You get a military closer tie. You don't piss off your biggest customer - not much, if at all. Option 2. You cancel the French contract. You go into a military pact openly and publicly with the USA and whoever - basically saying that China is the enemy.Result - you might upset the Frogs for a bit. You get your subs (more expensive ). You get a military closer tie. You totally piss off your biggest customer - confirming to them that you consider them the enemy. Why, in the name of god, would you choose option 2?????????????
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this government and under Howard has a long and enviable record of defence disaster decisions, this French sub disaster quadruple the cost of buying off the shelf, now these yank ones will cost even more, $100 billion joint strike fighters that need to rendezvous with a fuel tanker on any os sortie. The sea sprite helicopter program refitting with fatigued chassis under Howard, the hunter class frigates at $4.5 billion each, just 8 Chinese torpedoes and we are finished! https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/35-billion-on-frigates-bae-wins-has-australia-won-too/ https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/plight-of-the-hunter-this-may-be-worse-than-our-submarine-drama/news-story/f7a127839d67b3561372bcda54faad04