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Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

Oz seems to go out of it's way with the Liberals to make terrible decisions.

Look at what 'should' have been the objectives of this whole submarine business

1. dump a deal which you made yourself - but, you think it's a lemon - so, you want to get out of it --------- fair enough objective

2. If you feel there's a real threat - from China and your trading routes to china so you can trade with china (yeah, we know the logic of that one) -- then, yes - if you 'insist on subs' - then, you need a replacement for the deal you are about to pull the pin on.

So - there'd be two ways of doing that ---------

Option 1. Cancel the French contract. Buy Japanese subs off the shelf AND if you wish - do a secret deal with the USA and whoever else for some sort of military pact.

Result - you might upset the Frogs for a bit. You get your subs (cheaper). You get a military closer tie. You don't piss off your biggest customer - not much, if at all.

Option 2. You cancel the French contract. You go into a military pact openly and publicly with the USA and whoever - basically saying that China is the enemy.

Result - you might upset the Frogs for a bit. You get your subs (more expensive ). You get a military closer tie. You totally piss off your biggest customer - confirming to them that you consider them the enemy.

Why, in the name of god, would you choose option 2?????????????

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The Froggy Subs cost (starting price) $90 billion for a dozen;
that's $7.5 billion USD a pop.

The latest US Nuke Subs cost $5.5 USD billion a pop....that's $10 odd billion a piece in our Peso

https://news.usni.org/2019/10/10/cbo-navys-next-nuclear-attack-submarine-could-cost-5-5b-a-hull

Lets assume that we're getting 8 and the total budget is the same as the Froggy jobs;
that's $11.25 billion AUD/apiece .

If it were that, then ScoMo & Birmingham would be spruiking it all over the airways.
So logically we have to assume its a lot more than that.

With China being able to build a Nuke aircraft carrier in 4 years and Nuke Sobs in less
than that and with a better than 50% US war within a decade, a 20 year build time
is for the birds, IMO and the timing of the announcement indicates to me that it may
be 95% election politics & 5% Subs!

https://news.usni.org/2020/10/12/chinese-increasing-nuclear-submarine-shipyard-capacity
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