Mum and her work colleagues got together and made an order. I ended up with a few pairs. I'll be honest, these are no good for hot or humid weather, due to the synthetic part of them. Comfy fit, but sweaty and on 2 sizes I had (med and lge) the waistband felt like it was cutting off my circulation, and I'm a fairly scrawny 30-32in waist. They have nothing on good cotton trunks IMO. Maybe they'll make some kickarse products, but personally it's an order once, never to be repeated for me. My Mum's partner loved his though, so who knows. Bit of feedback nobody asked for
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