With grass catcher, Mogs IMHO its the lobby groups and the trade...

With grass catcher, Mogs

IMHO its the lobby groups and the trade things,,,

as in

You buy our subs we will maybe buy you things,,,

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and then we will try not to make the cost blow out over 500%

Here let us get you a dinner at the new flash place on the sea shore.

And we will throw in some mints as well.

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Is what it comes down to..

what Australia needs,,,

Is a Vast Vast amount of land based deffence,

As unless there is a boat load of Human lives on board, you could sail a large ship into most landing spots,,,

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If invasions come,,,its at the ground that they can be stopped,,,

not by some huge fish that costs a heap,,, ( and all it takes is just one smart weapon to render $50M into a fish farm.)

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The cost of one sub,,could buy so many more helicopters,and ATV's

and their spread would make them very difficult to eliminate...

Have any here ever read the 'Art Of War"   did post it in Gen BooOks some time ago.

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100,000 arrows are more effective in causing havock on an army than one,

cumbersome mammoth ...

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Short of Nuking,where none win,

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A gatling gun is better than 1000 single shot muskets