I am not qualified to "peer review" a climate science paper, and...

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01/03/18

12:24

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Originally posted by mjp2 ↑

Sure, to a degree. And if scientists were shown to be telling the porkies the denial camp are, then you'd have a case.

But the science isn't telling porkies and the denial camp is. That's the deed. And the motive comes from the fossil fuel industry who are funding these "think tanks" and bloggers; which think tanks and bloggers publish no science.

If you are getting your evidence from the news cycle you aren't studying the science or the arguments against the science. You aren't on the fence, if that's the case. You are just uninformed. Which is understandable; it's complex detailed stuff. But if you are taking the side of the less manipulative, then you should be with the science. They are doing the same thing they've done for decades. Research and publish and be subject to peer review and criticism and further research that may support or challenge their findings. They have done this for over 100 years in the case of atmospheric physics and for over fourty years in the case of international concerted study into the impact of greenhouse gasses, and particularly since 1988 when the IPCC was founded to help communicate the science's concerns to international governments. The fossil fuel industry have published no science, but they are telling a lot of manipulative stories. And funding a lot of politicians to ignore the science. It's clear who is being manipulative.

For me that is largely by and by. I've looked at the science and the fraudulent arguments against the science. The arguments against the science are nakedly false and, in many cases laughably biased, blinkered and obviously deceptive.

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I am not qualified to "peer review" a climate science paper, and would not "peer review" anything I AM qualified for unless I am there or try it. A "peer reviewed" paper even on something I am qualified for me is the lowest form of review. You have to actually, try something or witness how something is performed/how data is collected and compared... "peer reviewed paper" ... no I don't think that is the be all and end all.

Judith Curry belongs to the 97% of Scientists but is a skeptic, consider that for a minute without prejudice and I think you might find yourself looking for a ladder to join me on the fence. Oil companies have not organised themselves anywhere near as well as the politicians behind ......said science.
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