re:madmacs chat only John, if you ever travelled the road from VAM's original operations at Gunpowder to Kajabbi, about 15kms before the pub at Kajabbi, (on your left), was/is Mt Cuthbert.
RIO and Mary K did a lot of work around there in the 60's-80's-Mighty Atom, Warwick Castle and so on.
You may have even stopped for a slash there without even knowing what was below your feet (besides the new puddle!)LOL
Cheers,TAS
