Once you can fake sincerity, you've got it made.

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19/07/18

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Originally posted by pintohoo ↑

Whilst I don't disagree with a lot you said - I differ on one thing and make a point on another

"but his message and sincerity touched enough Americans who knew they had been shafted for decades" - I completely agree - IMO - he harnessed the anger -------- beautifully - but, the problem is - he's the exact same that they hate ----------- he's in crap up to his eyeballs - might be different crap - but, it's crap.

On Kennedy - hmmmm - maybe, maybe not ----------- I believe that things were dark before Kennedy -

but, I have a particular distaste for Kennedy --

Kennedy followed on from Eisenhower with the Vietnam system hatred --

ok - I could see that as foolish - and, I would not judge him as bad for that - just foolish.

But -- this is where I completely fall out with Kennedy -

he was smart enough to learn that Vietnam was unwinnable ------- as far as I know - the first American President who learnt that -

but, he FULLY intended in staying in Vietnam until his reelection ------ 1 year and 59 days away from his assination

Now - the ONLY reason why he stayed in Vietnam (even if he intended to pull out after reelection) - was that he thought that he could never get reelected if he pulled the troops out and finished the war.

To me - that's unforgivable. That's at least (and, probably a lot more) - 1 year and 2 months of death and destruction that could have been avoided - thousands of families torn apart - real people.

Now - Johnson also stayed in there - and, he too knew full well that Vietnam was unwinnable ----but, he wasn't the first to realise that ------ Kennedy was.

Then, things just went from bad to worse from there - a very ugly place in our history.

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Once you can fake sincerity, you've got it made.
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