re: thanks guys - the debate -gyro Loins seem ok I will research The Rotary in due course.
loins - the lower part of the abdomen just above the external genital organs
pubes, pubic region
region, area - a part of an animal that has a special function or is supplied by a given artery or nerve; "in the abdominal region"
mons, mons pubis, mons veneris - a mound of fatty tissue covering the pubic area in women
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